Coverage News
zP! League Cup - Promotions etc
77
Comments
• Posted By
aKaaa at 2010-03-08 12:12 CET
• Hits: 4137
|
Name: Aaron "aKaaa" Swain
Age: 23
Location: United Kingdom
|
Avg. Rate:
0 / 10
( 0 Votes )
|
1
aKaaa
2010-02-25 23:31:25 CET
2
Lindo
2010-02-25 23:34:57 CET
vol champions of Division 1!!!!
you know what i think akaa i think it was awesome and i havnt even played yet :) Maybe have it play each other twice. Different maps second time around.
5
Disko
2010-02-26 00:21:58 CET
nmR still doesn't answer anywhere :( ESL, mirc, zP :/
6
tripi
2010-02-26 00:24:42 CET
we (Dimegio) are in contact with diZe atm to play this match, and we played yesterday the match of week 6 against mystix.
# Did you like the style of the league cup?
# What did you not like?
# How would you improve it?
In my opinion this style is perfect, the groups were perfects and one of the best competition i haved play.
I just think that in a competition like that its needed more than an admin, and the only problem here were us, the answer of the comunity.
thnx for ure effort akaa (and Gamera i guess ^^)
7
SuSpectZer0
2010-02-26 00:28:03 CET
as i wrote in week 5 comments e-load (previously we love) played today 2 remaining games.
week 4 game
e-load (we love) [16:1]
EzN
week 5 game
e-load (we love) [7:5]
CoolCode
btw tripi... nice one ;D cup has only 5 weeks but you already played week 6 game yesterday ;D
and about the feedback.
1. ye, i like teh style, not so serious and yet not just playing for nothing like imo esl ladder. this event groups were well chosen. also like the intensity - 2 games per week.
2. i didnt liked that so many teams folded/defaulted games, so the only problem, just like tripi said, was the community.
3. not sure how your gonna do this in this even but i would drop 2/3 worst teams from the specific group to the lower div in next event and 2/3 best going up. also, some of you might think its useless and that im brainless but... i would like to see the rule like ''zblocker demanded on gameserver'' (unlike others i dont flame it, imo its good, and dont lags servers, for sure not all of em) or some antycheat, would be nice to implement this cup with esl for using aeq or at least x-ray. and now aeq as part of esl wire is far more user friendly cuz you just click upload and your match media are uploaded on match www without going to esl web page.
p.s. on next even would be nice to make anotehr coverage topic with all div tables and scores on specific week, same as Gamera did on his website. just because im lazy and i would like to have everything in one place ;d
9
ki
2010-02-26 00:52:25 CET
wrong thread. hahaha
10
Disko
2010-02-26 01:15:17 CET
#7 Exactly the same as SuSpectZer0 said! :D
Very good job aKaa. Cups, news etc! :D So nice.
11
Gamera
2010-02-26 03:07:50 CET
I really enjoyed this league, and I'm looking forward to the next one!
It was really great to face opponents who have the same level as ours twice a week! Moreover, Div2 was the division where most teams played always their matches on time!
The problem, in my opinion, is that there should be a page where all leaders are listed, with their SteamFriends ID, so that we can get in touch easier to plan our games.
Too many delays have been allowed. I'd like a system where teams can delay 1 or 2 of their games. If they can't play a second or third one before the deadline, then it's defwin for the other team. That would probably force teams to stick to the schedule, or at least avoid huge delays.
I'd like some changes in the rules. I think that teams shouldn't be able to refuse to play at least one half of the game on a server with DBlocker. This league doesn't require any anticheat program, so I think that it would be a plus if both teams were not supposed to agree to play on a server with DB. "In case of a team doesn't want to play with DBlocker activated, they shall play the second half on their own server but cannot, whatever is the situation, refuse to play the first half on the opponents' server" should be a rule.
I'm glad to have been useful to the community thanks to the rankings I've made! I'll do it again if there's another league, if it can help the admin(s). ;)
PS: What does BeLike - Coolcode concern, I've read in some random comment that according to Coolcode, BeLike was granted a defwin.
13
SuSpectZer0
2010-02-26 10:37:21 CET
btw, dont you think def win should be like 5:0 not 1:0?
14
micHiiii
2010-02-26 11:16:06 CET
first of all, thanks for your effort an now a rather big list of constructive critism for you to improve:
- league systems with moveups and movedowns dont work in esport games, unless your league has the power to force the teams to professionalism (e.g. eps). zpleague hasnt. other leagues tried & failed miserably. do you seriously want to put e.g. supremz if they would come back in some time in the last division and force them to play their way up? with 7 matchweeks and 5 divisions to play in it would take them 35 weeks, and i yet havent counted in the breaks between the seasons :D however if you still want to stick to your layout:
[- bring in playoffs for the first division. top 4 qualify.
- bring in relegation for the other divisions instead of playoffs. bottom 2 of upper division vs 2nd & 3rd of lower division play for the spots in the next seasons division. ]
- 2 matches per week is too much, even in offseason. DoD:S teams tend to play on the last possible date anyway ;-))
- wait for a leaguescript to be released for this page or , as sad it would be, host your league on a bigger leagueplatform. sgl maybe?
- bring in some kind of anticheattool
- IMPROVE COVERAGE yes, its in capsbold
but generally: as said above and in private to you already, i like your effort, but i honestly think you should rework your whole concept. moveups & movedowns usually dont work in esport and definatly wont in dods. 3 1/2 matchweeks is too short and too much matches pressed into a too short timeframe. it feels like a nightcup and teams and players treat it like it. also there is a reason why every esports league you can think of has playoffs. without them the whole thing feels incomplete and without real winner.
but gl with your new season, however it will look like :))
15
Apone
2010-02-26 11:32:49 CET
For my opinion you should put 1 match in 1 week. teams often plays other leagues at the same time. hard to get all matches played within 1 week
16
RicKaaa
2010-02-26 12:02:07 CET
Personally i have enjoyed the League....
My opinion about how to move forward.
Only 1 team from each division gains automatic promotion, teams in 2nd and 3rd playoff against teams in bottom from division above, with only the team in last getting automatic Relegation (if you relegate teams etc)
Thus meaning skill should still be kept to top teams staying in top divisions rather than 3 dropping out to accomodate lucky placings due to defaults !
17
drag0n
2010-02-26 12:13:42 CET
at first, giant thanks to your effort akaaa & gentle team for the rankings
but the design of the groups and the matchdays was poor ...
without the gentle rankings it would be really confusing
michiii wrote:
- bring in some kind of anticheattool
supported by esl or do you want to use x-ray?
or something new?
the idea is quit well but how to put into effect?
18
jalaji
2010-02-26 13:45:34 CET
We are trying to play vs diZe, waiting for their answer.
19
mattiiii
2010-02-26 14:01:53 CET
2 matches a week is definitely too much, It gave the whole tournament a kinda of joke vibe. There was no time to practice for your officials so people just play them to get them out of the way and don't care about results, one match on a set default date/time should make these matches worth winning. Wheres the fun in beating a team that hasn't scrimmed for the match.
20
BaRs
2010-02-26 14:11:33 CET
yeah i absolutely agree with most of this posts and personally want to said thx, for org and league.
we must foresee every detail for future events and amend next league.
i liked all the matches.
in my opinion it will be better to make qualification round with playoffs and place teams for further groups.
ofc it's interesting and useful to get some anticheat, but it depends on decision of players. i know xray sucks but it's better than nothing.
and the main problem is teamfolding, and a lot of teams which are changing their name, tag, during the league.
good idea with page of contact information or even steam group.
21
mattiiii
2010-02-26 14:18:40 CET
I think a Steam group is a good idea.
22
Lindo
2010-02-26 14:28:11 CET
akaa volatile are champions, as are infitius!
#14 when did you become mr know it all
"moveups & movedowns usually dont work in esport and definatly wont in dods."
How are you so confident it wont? With what uve written you made it sound like all leagues wont work at all and fail.
This event hasnt been a complete failure, yeh a few teams folded but that was to be expected plus akaa set this up byhimself. Next time will be better. I think alot of teams didnt treat this like a nightcup and actually wanted to win and be promoted, i think everyone who ive spoken to actually likes that there playing in a league format.
You can tell zP! only left the comp as they didnt want to have a loss next to their names.
I agree with 1 game a week, and the only playoffs i think should be played are in div 1, 2, 3 just like football :)
and gameras league link is awesome.
23
aKaaa
2010-02-26 15:10:31 CET
Well thanks micHiii, this is why this whole event was title as a "<b>trial</b>, yes in bold! This is the stuff, we need to take it to the next level - Their are playoffs in div 1/2 and 3 to get promoted etc.
This example of new pro teams coming back has already been spoken about as rockit want in next time, their will be some sort of Qualification event to get into the higher tiers if you feel you should be there, yet to be worked out.
The league system you talked about has had no mention and only nbad has tried to sort a script for me, however we have worked out a new system to make it look better and allow coverage, you must understand, I am coverage whore and running cups, bit too much work for even me! However in open cup you will see the new system go into place which should make it much clearer for teams :)
Teams have folded or been unable to finish, this is a shame but was expected. I am glad it hasnt really effected the groups at a major level.
The two games a week may of been a bit too much however we pcw way to much and I wanted to try some thing different, its not as if we cannot play two games a week!
anyway as I have said many times this was a trial event so all constructive criticism to make the event better is welcomed :)
24
mattiiii
2010-02-26 15:13:34 CET
Of course some teams are going to be able to make 2 games a week with no problems, but you have to cater for teams that can't. I say better safe than sorry and make it 1 game a week, we might see less drop outs this way.
26
Apone
2010-02-26 15:59:07 CET
maybe because div2 players can focus on that zp event and prem and 1st div teams have to face other matches as well. over all nationscup is actually a big problem for the "better teams" to get so many officials played within 1 week:>
28
jo3y
2010-02-26 17:26:56 CET
I can't be bothered to read any of this but i will probably whine about somthing, that is all.
29
aKaaa
2010-02-26 17:35:39 CET
#26 not for dA! thou :P
Plus a lot of games are before NC started :) so not really a valid excuse. Also div2 teams are german and french who have ESL france and Germany going on so not really valid excuse, DIMEGIO managed and they Spanish!
#28 why post then if you cant be bothered to put in put in? :D
30
jo3y
2010-02-26 18:22:55 CET
To inform you that i'm not going to put in what i was going to put in because i can't be bothered to put in.
32
Steuner
2010-02-26 20:07:35 CET
What this coverage needs are boxes... Huge and kickass boxes.
35
ki
2010-02-26 22:41:17 CET
#19 agreed.
I don't have that much to say about this cup since I only played and didn't really care for anything else, but this is something I noticed and thought was stupid since there are other things going on around it. This time NC took some time from praccing two maps a week equally much and the next time there might be ESL or whatever going on at the same time which would make it even harder to keep up all the praccing. Too demanding and too zeriouZsszzz with 100 matches / week.
36
Shaft
2010-02-27 13:56:36 CET
I need to speak to someone to put
iMgaming match date pm here
37
jo3y
2010-02-28 17:47:06 CET
volatile vs
cbt
Tuesday 21 cet
39
LUK3
2010-02-28 19:00:46 CET
dA gave us a default win they are unable to play.
cya keep putting our official off for no reason so i am not sure what is happening there.
43
Zaboutine
2010-03-02 21:05:30 CET
no response from rctics...
44
jo3y
2010-03-02 21:47:01 CET
volatile 3-1
cbt
gg guys
45
eleveN
2010-03-02 22:04:39 CET
46
LUK3
2010-03-02 22:09:35 CET
FF 7 - 2 cya
gg
48
mattiiii
2010-03-02 22:13:07 CET
gg cya :)
49
Helz
2010-03-02 22:17:46 CET
GG First
50
aKaaa
2010-03-02 23:03:41 CET
gg :) updated
any one know anything on
rctic?
Post Comment
You must be logged in to post comments.
Login or register here.
Spirit of Amiga yet they went on to finish in the playoff position in the division.
Casca.Qpad
Alpha Squad
